I’ve bitched about this before
My college drives me crazy with its lack of services available to evening students
Some quarters are worse then others, this quarter we’ve seen an improvement in availability of food in the cafeteria, but I’ve also run into a new problem. Lack of hours at the Distance Learning Center. In the 10 quarters over 5 years that I’ve attended North Seattle Community College I’ve taken 6 distances classes. This quarters class is a little different and requires an on campus test. The test is occurring on the night that I’m in my other (10 credit ) class so I began to initiate a proctor today, a week out , as required by the course. I contacted the distance learning office to be informed that their services are only available on Monday-Friday 8:30-3:30 for testing, and that their office is only available until 5.
What do they expect of a non traditional student? I’m honestly asking. Is it expected that students will take time off of work? Is it expected that employers will be “flexible” and let people take time off randomly?
Last quarter I let my frustrations boil up and I wrote a letter to the President Ronald H. LaFayette. I never got a response, not even a simple form response of “thanks for your letter” It’s annoying, but shows the service I’ve come to expect from North.
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I am a full time evening and weekend student who has come to feel more and more slighted by the thoughtless discrimination of available resources available on the weekends. I understand that the school markets itself to students attempting to complete their degrees in the evening and I’m delighted to find many of my evening classes full to capacity. (We have to bring extra chairs in for at least one) Even at capacity the evening students still only register as 25% of the student body, so I do understand curtailed hours. However in the past four years this has only gotten more frustrating.
I work full time, Monday through Friday 8am -5pm. I get off of work and rush to campus as fast as possible. Services that are available at this time are the much mart and coffee bar. Cafeteria =Closed Bookstore =Closed. Luckily I haven’t run out of paper or pens or needed any other materials mid class. For food, the munch mart suffices as long as i like processed items. Of course, after you make your purchase at the munch mart do you huddle in front of the munch mart and eat before returning to class? Sprint to the next lounge? Huddle in the cold outside? It’s not suitable to bring food in to the labs. In 2003 I was at least able to arrive to campus at 5:45 and grab a quick cup of soup in the cafeteria. In 2007 thats a processed cup of soup from campbells.
This quarter I was grateful to find a Saturday class I thought it was a great use of the campus resources and my time. With class four evenings a week already, the only other way I could add a class would be weekend or distance learning. I chose the Saturday class. Had I know that there would be less resources available, I might have reconsidered my decision. My class starts at 8:30. The munch mart opens at noon. The lounges? Not open. The cafeteria area and access to the only ATM machine on campus? Not open. Since I do participate in the campuses trip reduction efforts (and pay $10 a quarter for that ) and do not drive to campus I arrive at 8am to a closed cold campus where I get to wait until my professor arrives. Doesn’t that seem a bit ridiculous that even a lounge isn’t open in the building that is holding classes? There is a great new lounge area thats been built, not accessible for my Saturday morning class though.
The reason that I’m writing now is that this morning I found a different circumstance when I arrived on campus. A good portion of the building I’m in is rented out to Sea Scouts and Traffic school One one hand this is fantastic because I believe that these rooms should be used if possible. After all arent they wasted resources other wise. On the other hand they did move us out of our room, tried to schedule their sessions in the room they we were relocated too violating the Washington Administrative Code.. WAC 132F-136-02 Limitation of use to school activities. Under section 8 (8) Use of space shall not interfere with regularly scheduled classes or activities..
To further my frustration, the coffee bar was open this morning, as was the cafeteria building.. As if this group garners more respect and earns the access to more services then students who are paying tuition for their courses. Logically I know this is just about numbers, and that they’ve paid for use of our space.
Emotionally it feels like the school could care less about evening and weekend students. I pay for resources that are not available to me. I get no support from basic services during the time that I am here. (Reasonably due to timing I will never make it into the Wellness Center.) There is no student government anymore. There is no student news paper anymore. There isn’t even basic communication to the students about things as simple as the clock problem that exists. When I mentioned being frustrated to staff I’ve been brushed off.
New students bring in new money, but at this point I wouldn’t recommend to anyone that they come to this campus. At least Central has closer resources available that are off campus.
What I’d like to see? Short term, simply opening the lounge on Saturday mornings at least before the class of the day is reasonable .Long term? I’d like to see more communication to the students, I think North needs to build a more virtual campus. The Polaris online was a start . Newsletters via email, discussions groups online. Get the students connected, but transcend date/time/location somehow. Have events that happen later in the evening, or over the weekend. Reactivate NorthSpeaks.com. Talk to the evening students and see what it would take to have us involved. And above all, value and respect us, and show it.
By nature I’m a non driver. I’ve never held a drivers liscence and though I’ve held a permit twice, I can count the number of times I’ve driven without having to take off my socks.